**CORRECTED** Episode 0008: Guest Tamara Cofman Wittes / Human Rights & National Security (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)

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Today on The Smell of Victory PodcastBob Hein and Phil Walter sat down with Tamara Cofman Wittes of The Brookings Institution and the Divergent Options Strategic Advisory Board to discuss human rights and national security.

This hour-long discussion touched on:

– Cold War human rights policies of Nixon and Kissinger

– Jeane Kirkpatrick’s article “Dictators and Double Standards

– Post Cold War human rights policies

– The U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia following the killing of Washington Post correspondent Jamal Khashoggi

– The incongruence of U.S. words on human rights vs U.S. deeds

– Maximizing the value of imperfect instruments

– Degrees of hypocrisy that are inevitable vs degrees of hypocrisy that get in our way

– Information about the #NatSecGirlSquad Conference

And much more!

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Episode 0007: The Great Books Edition (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)

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This episode of The Smell of Victory Podcast focuses on great books.  More specifically, what Bob Hein, Steve Leonard, and Phil Walter think are great books.  The Divergent Options trio determined what their favorite books were in the categories of Policy, Strategy, Tactical, Most Gifted, and Most Personal and decided to share them with our amazing listeners.  Though only Bob and Phil were able to attend this episode of the podcast, Steve provided his favorites as well.  You can see all of the books on the spreadsheet below.

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Episode 0006: The Politicization of Retired U.S. Military Generals and Admirals (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)

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In 1988 General Paul X. Kelly, a retired United States Marine Corps General, made it known that he endorsed candidate George Bush for President of the United States.  That simple endorsement broke open the dam, emboldening future generations of retired Generals and Admirals to make their views known during each election cycle.  What are the impacts, good or bad, when retired military Generals and Admirals stand on stage to support a candidate for President?  What impacts do these endorsements have on the military members still serving?  Can or should anything be done about these endorsements?  Join Bob Hein and Steve Leonard as they discuss these issues and more on this episode of The Smell of Victory Podcast!

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Episode 0005: Mission Creep (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)

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What is mission creep?  What are some examples of mission creep?  What are some effects of mission creep?  Why does the military seem to bat clean up for the rest of the Executive Branch when national security problems rear their ugly heads?  Bob Hein and Steve Leonard discuss these issues and more on this episode of The Smell of Victory Podcast!

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Episode 0004: Guest Kori Schake (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)

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In this episode of The Smell of Victory Podcast Bob Hein and Steve Leonard interview Dr. Kori Schake the Deputy Director-General of the International Institute for Strategic Studies regarding her newest book “Safe Passage: The Transition from British to American Hegemony.”  We then wander into other potential hegemonic shifts of the future, (is there potential for an Indian hegemony?), what can be done to secure American hegemony for the future, interpreting the end of August Cole and Peter Singer’s novel “Ghost Fleet,” why Kori writes, her time raising cows in California, and how to improve the State Department.

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Episode 0003: Military Planning Constructs (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)

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In this episode of The Smell of Victory Podcast Bob Hein, Steve Leonard, and Phil Walter tackle the phases of military operations and the new Joint Concept for Integrated Campaigning.  The trio discusses the historic role of the phased planning construct and why the Joint Staff felt a need to change.  They also spend a lot of time examining war termination and the implications of not planning adequately for the transition to peace, using Operation Iraqi Freedom as the primary example while also exploring World War 2 and Operation Desert Storm.  Also mentioned on the podcast, and able to be downloaded here, is a July 2013 memo from U.S. Army General and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin E. Dempsey to the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee that discusses military options in Syria.

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Episode 0002: U.S. & PRC Maritime Competition (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)

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In this episode of The Smell of Victory Podcast Bob Hein leads the way in a discussion focusing on maritime competition between the United States and the People’s Republic of China while Steve Leonard and Phil Walter sprint to keep up!

This episode begins with a brief overview of A.T. Mahan and Julian Corbett and the differences between Sea Control and Power Projection.  Your trio of hosts then takes four ideas Andrew Marshall posed in his 1972 RAND paper “Long-Term Competition with the Soviets: A Framework for Strategic Analysis” and discusses them in a United States and People’s Republic of China maritime competition context.  Per Andrew Marshall:

A natural sequence of steps in the development of a policy, or strategy, for the long-term strategic arms competition is the following:

1. Characterization of the nature of the competition.

2. Delineation of u.s. goals in the competition.

3. Development of an appropriate strategy, or strategies, for achieving these goals.

4. Development of analytical methods and modification of inputs required to design and program U.S. strategic forces in accordance with this strategy.

Mahan, Corbett, Marshall, and even Bob Hein’s preferred cigar brands (Montecristo and My Father) are discussed in this episode!

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Episode 0001: U.S. National Security Strategy (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)

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While Thru-Hiking the Appalachian Trail in 2017, Divergent Options co-founder Bob Hein listened to a lot of podcasts.  Along the way, he asked himself, “Why not a Divergent Options podcast?”

Bob completed his thru-hike and has taken the helm on a new line of effort at Divergent Options, a podcast called The Smell of Victory.

The Smell of Victory podcast debuts with 58 minutes of Phil Walter, Steve Leonard, and Bob Hein discussing the United States National Security Strategy (NSS).  They begin by noting the requirements for an NSS established in 50 U.S. Code § 3043, and then examine the “Strategy in a Regional Context” portion of President Donald Trump’s NSS, which begins on page 45 of the document.  As always, Divergent Options’ content does not contain information of an official nature nor does the content represent the official position of any government, any organization, or any group.  

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