Sailors use needle guns to remove rust from the anchor chain of the USS Porter at Naval Station Rota, Spain, Feb. 23, 2019. — https://www.defense.gov/observe/photo-gallery/igphoto/2002093852/

It has been quite awhile since we recorded and published an episode of The Smell of Victory Podcast, and, truth be told, it shows in this episode.  Of course we suggest that you tune in anyway, and listen to Bob Hein and Phil Walter (whose microphone was too close to his mouth) knock of their rusty podcasting skills as they discuss challenges that President Biden will face during the next four years.  Topics cussed and discussed on this episode include:

– COVID19 and its use as leverage in foreign policy

– Partnerships in the Indo-Pacific Region

– Russia and its threat or lack thereof

– Iran!  Iran!  Iran!  (Said like Jan Brady “Marcia!  Marcia!  Marcia!”)

– Violent Extremism

– 4+1, 1+4, and other bumper sticker math problems that attempt to oversimplify U.S. national security priorities

– Discussing the gifts that Bob and Phil received for Christmas which include a yodeling pickle

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